Unlicensed open Carry

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Re: Unlicensed open Carry

Postby zach » Wed Mar 09, 2011 2:19 am

tuf8seconds wrote:I am a bit torn on the unlicensed Open Carry issue. I went through a back-ground check to have a CWP and I go through a back-ground check to purchase a weapon, neither of which I am opposed. Therefore, I think a back-groung check and license/permit issue, may be in order to Open Carry. I understand that a criminal is not going to obey the rules but, to have a Homeland Security back-groung check before being allowed to Open Carry, is reasonable in my opinion. I don't think I stand alone with this thought. Am I all by myself here or do others agree? I'll be anxious to see how others respond.... Tuf



It's a human right, not a privilege to be granted by some ruling caste. And as you said in different words, someone who cannot be trusted with a gun cannot be trusted without a custodian and should already be incarcerated.
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Re: Unlicensed open Carry

Postby jhileb » Wed Mar 09, 2011 3:25 pm

i have been back and forth myself on licensed vs. unlicensed legal open carry. i can see the benefits of both sides....one benefit of unlicensed open carry is it would likely stop allot of criminals from gaining stolen weapons from parked cars. i know lots of people who don't want to deal with the concealed license formality, but who carry a pistol or revolver in their car locked up, and legal.....if they could carry their weapon openly without having to buy oversized pillowcase sized shirts or tuckable iwb holsters for legal licensed concealed carry....they are more likely to carry their gun on them and every gun legally attached to a belt takes one out of a locked car and out of the hands of car break in criminals who gain illegal firearms this way. while my own experiences aren't a good indicator of how often car break ins happen. i happen to know two people who had their guns stolen from parked and locked cars and so in this case it would have taken two stolen firearms, now likely in criminals hands off the streets...had the owners been able to legally open carry unlicensed. just a thought.....
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Re: Unlicensed open Carry

Postby redfernsoljah » Tue May 24, 2011 2:06 am

MackTheKnife wrote:I don't agree with any further checks, licenses, permits, etc. to OC. To do this, after going through a background check to purchase a firearm, has no value-added. A Homeland Security check? What would that accomplish that the background check didn't? Adding a license or permit requirement is just another abridgment of the Federal and Florida Constitutions right to keep and bear arms.
Let's just keep it simple and allow gun-owners to OC without any further hurdles to clear.



I agree in an ideal situation that no further background checks should be necessary. There are though situations where firearms can be bought and sold and not have to go through a dealer within the state. Also just because you where able o purchase a firearm. There is no clear evidence that you are able to properly and safely use the firearm. This is where I get stuck on it. I want the right to be able to hiking with my pistol and not have to conceal it. Yet realistically there has to be a point of gains and losses. It yes in the end are going to keep the honest honest and criminals will ignore any such law if they want to carry. Proof of a background check within the last so many years and at the minimum a firearm safety course would be where I lie. It would be an ideal world where one could just be responsible enough to be trusted to know the ability etc and not harm others by stupid acts even if only one. Is it our right to own and bear arms absolutely but it is also a society that needs at minimum basic instruction on use etc to use since many where not weened on arms as in days of old.
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Re: Unlicensed open Carry

Postby Rich7553 » Tue May 24, 2011 2:48 pm

Documented training is not required to exercise any of the other rights guaranteed in the Bill or Rights or the US Constitution. There is no training mandated before one can exercise their freedom of speech. However just as one can be held responsible for what they say publicly, so it is with firearms. A person would be a fool not to take training classes in firearms safety and use. But should training be mandatory? I don't think so.
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Re: Unlicensed open Carry

Postby ringageek » Fri Aug 05, 2011 5:55 pm

a car is 2,000 to 6,000 pounds if that hits you most likly your done! but yet they will let a 16 year old behind the wheel! im 35 years old i have a gun perment i live in florida and i must say its hard to hide
its too dam hot here to carry a gun i did it for a year i know..

i wish this was open carry in florida ... i guess i need to carry a smaller gun then a 380 as its just too much gun for a tang top! and shorts what do you guys think????
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Re: Unlicensed open Carry

Postby Rich7553 » Sat Aug 06, 2011 3:54 am

ringageek wrote:a car is 2,000 to 6,000 pounds if that hits you most likly your done! but yet they will let a 16 year old behind the wheel! im 35 years old i have a gun perment i live in florida and i must say its hard to hide
its too dam hot here to carry a gun i did it for a year i know..

i wish this was open carry in florida ... i guess i need to carry a smaller gun then a 380 as its just too much gun for a tang top! and shorts what do you guys think????


I don't wear tank tops. I wear oversized T-shirts or loose collar shirts and shorts and carry a Glock 23. I simply don't worry about it. Since SB 234 was signed into law, brief exposure not done in a rude or threatening manner is no longer a crime. Printing isn't a crime either. If you want to avoid being hassled, get an appropriate in waist band holster that holds the firearm tucked close into your body.
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Re: Unlicensed open Carry

Postby festus » Sun Aug 07, 2011 10:45 pm

In my humble opinion we should be just like AZ, Vermont, or AK
If you have it pack it because everyone else is.
Seriously the only people who do not need access to firearms are those that have a violent felony history.
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